Julie Taymor recently lept from director of a cuddly Disney tale to a story of revenge, rape, infanticide, cannibalism and dismemberment. Best known as the Tony Award-winning director of Broadway's "The Lion King," Taymor dove into the deep end for her feature film directorial debut, choosing a gory and lesser- known Shakespeare play, "Titus Andronicus," to adapt for the screen (she had already adapted it for an off-Broadway production in 1995). The result is "Titus," starring Jessica Lange and Anthony Hopkins, a highly stylized, time- warped comic book of a film in the vein of Baz Luhrmann's "Romeo + Juliet" and Ian McKellen's "Richard III," and yet entirely its own creature. Although this dark and disturbing play has been dismissed by many as an aberration, the plot seems surprisingly relevant today. 

CitySearch recently sat down with Ms. Taymor, who was elegantly dressed in all black, to discuss the genius of Shakespeare, the blending of time periods and the MPAA's influence on films. 

Titus

Well, I've loved films forever. I'm not really interested in being in the business. I'm interested in making movies. There's a distinct difference between those two things. I love the art form. I love what you can do with it. 
 
 


The time is a created time. You can't say, like in "Richard III," that it's the 1940s ... it's a blend of time. Now, about how you'd have Bassianus in a 1950s Thunderbird and Saturninus in Mussolini's convertible ... and Titus in a chariot [that] has more to do with that character. That costume and period feel of the music was more of an essence of who they are as people ... Costume is about personality, not about OK, now we're in the '50s, now we're in the '90s, now we're in the '80s. 


We cut a little bit of violence but not much ... Violence isn't an issue in America, it's sex. And I cut a little bit out of the orgy scene. The orgy is only 30 seconds out of a 2-hour 40-minute movie. To give an NC-17 for four seconds was just ludicrous ... but you have to compromise with the MPAA. They have only done their job if they've done something to your movie. 

The orgy in my movie is so non-graphic, it's almost humorous. It's meant to be humorous, it's not meant to be erotic ... it's comic relief really. And I'll tell you, it was funnier before [it was cut] ... I wasn't there trying to do something lurid, but this is our culture. It's OK to have "The Matrix" and blow everybody up and laugh at "Pulp Fiction," but whoa if you should do something that's beautiful like sex. It's so weird. It's so sick. 


It leaves a bad taste in everyone's mouth. I think it's disgusting. What I think is the most disgusting is that the nipple had to be airbrushed off the metal armor [in the movie poster featuring Jessica Lange] because posters have to be [rated] R. I think that's saying something very bad about a female ... The breast is what nourishes us, and to make the nipple into a negative image is obscene. 


He's a genius. The man understood human nature better than anybody. You look at something like "Titus," his first play, and it's so rich in comprehension of what makes human beings do what they do. So I think people can put on layers for later generations ... but he understood human nature. That's why these are great plays. You can't say that we make them good plays by our understanding of them. It's all in the text, every single bit of it is in the text ... He was a brilliant writer of his time, and his time is oddly very close to our time. 

Young people have really dug it. The distributors were surprised, since it's Shakespeare. But hello! Look at what kind of Shakespeare it is. The inner-city high school students went berserk when I played it for them ... They said, "Move over Schwarzenegger, here comes Titus." 

—Sasha Emmons
Photos: Courtesy of Fox Searchlight 

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